Terrorism
(Received this in email yesterday. I don’t know the author at this time, will post name if I find it. Very good read, true and real. Please pass this on to your friends who oppose the war on terror.)
Sixty-three years ago, Nazi Germany had overrun almost all of Europe and hammered England to the verge of bankruptcy and defeat, and had sunk more than four hundred British ships in their convoys between England and America for food and war materials.
At that time the U.S. was in an isolationist, pacifist mood, and most Americans wanted nothing to do with the European or the Asian war.
Then along came Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, and in outrage Congress unanimously declared war on Japan, and the following day on Germany, which had not yet attacked us. It was a dicey act. We had few allies.
France was not an ally, as the Vichy government of France quickly aligned itself with its German occupiers. Germany was certainly not an ally, as Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe. Japan was not an ally, as it was well on its way to owning and controlling all of Asia.
Together, Japan and Germany had long-range plans of invading Canada and Mexico, as launching pads to get into the United States over our northern and southern borders, after they finished gaining control of Asia and Europe. America’s only allies then were England, Ireland, Scotland, Canada, Australia, and Russia. That was about it. All of Europe, from Norway to Italy, except Russia in the East, was already under the Nazi heel.
America was certainly not prepared for war. America had drastically downgraded most of its military forces after W.W.I and throughout the depression (barely over), so that at the outbreak of WW2, army units were training with broomsticks because they didn’t have guns, and cars with “tank” painted on the doors because they didn’t have real tanks. And a huge chunk of our navy had just been sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor.
Britain had already gone bankrupt, saved only by the donation of $600 million in gold bullion in the Bank of England, that was actually the property of Belgium, given by Belgium to England to carry on the war when Belgium was overrun by Hitler (a little known fact).
Actually, Belgium surrendered on one day, because it was unable to oppose the German invasion, and the Germans bombed Brussels into rubble the next day just to prove they could. Britain had already been holding out for two years in the face of staggering losses and the near decimation of its air force in the Battle of Britain, and was saved from being overrun by Germany only because Hitler made the mistake of thinking the Brits were a relatively minor threat that could be dealt with later, and first turning his attention to Russia, at a time when England was on the verge of collapse, in the late summer of 1940. ((Some real credit due, according to my readings, to the Brit fighter pilots in the asforesaid Battle of Britain. WPLjr))
Ironically, Russia saved America’s butt by putting up a desperate fight for two years, until the US got geared up to begin hammering away at Germany.
Russia lost something like 24 million people in the sieges of Stalingrad and Moscow alone… 90% of them from cold and starvation, mostly civilians, but also more than a 1,000,000 soldiers.
Had Russia surrendered, Hitler would have been able to focus his entire war effort against the Brits, then America. And the Nazis could possibly have won the war.
All of this is to illustrate that turning points in history are often dicey things. And now, we find ourselves at another one of those key moments in history .
There is a very dangerous minority in Islam that either has, or wants and may soon have, the ability to deliver small nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons, almost anywhere in the world.
The Jihadis, the militant Muslims, are basically Nazis in Kaffiyahs — they believe that Islam, a radically conservative form of Wahhabi Islam, should own and control the Middle East first, then Europe, then the world. And that all who do not bow to their will of thinking should be killed, enslaved, or subjugated. They want to finish the Holocaust, destroy Israel, and purge the world of Jews. This is their mantra.
There is also a civil war raging in the Middle East — for the most part not a hot war, but a war of ideas. Islam is having its Inquisition and its Reformation, but it is not known yet which will win — the Inquisitors, or the Reformationists.
If the Inquisition wins, then the Wahhabis, the Jihadis, will control the Middle East, the OPEC oil, and the US, European, and Asian economies.
The techno-industrial economies will be at the mercy of OPEC — not an OPEC dominated by the educated, rational Saudis of today, but an OPEC dominated by the Jihadis. You want gas in your car? You want heating oil next winter? You want the dollar to be worth anything? You better hope the Jihad, the Muslim Inquisition, loses, and the Islamic Reformation wins.
If the Reformation movement wins, that is, the moderate Muslims who believe that Islam can respect and tolerate other religions, and live in peace with the rest of the world, and move out of the 10th century into the 21st, then the troubles in the Middle East will eventually fade away, and a moderate and prosperous Middle East will emerge.
(The rational mind of today says this).
We have to help the Reformation win, and to do that we have to fight the Inquisition, i.e. the Wahhabi movement, the Jihad, Al Qaeda and the Islamic terrorist movements. We have to do it somewhere. And we can’t do it everywhere at once. We have created a focal point for the battle at a time and place of our choosing……..in Iraq. Not in New York, not in London, or Paris or Berlin, but in Iraq, where we are doing two important things:
(1) We deposed Saddam Hussein. Whether Saddam Hussein was directly involved in
9/11 or not, it is undisputed that Saddam has been actively supporting the terrorist movement for decades. Saddam was a terrorist. Saddam was a weapon of mass destruction, who is responsible for the deaths of probably more than a million Iraqis and two million Iranians.
(2) We created a battle, a confrontation, a flash point, with Islamic terrorism in Iraq. We have focused the battle. We are killing bad people, and the ones we get there we won’t have to get here. We also have a good shot at creating a democratic, peaceful Iraq, which will be a catalyst for democratic change in the rest of the Middle East, and an outpost for a stabilizing American military presence in the Middle East for as long as it is needed.
World War II, the war with the German and Japanese Nazis, really began with a “whimper” in 1928. It did not begin with Pearl Harbor. It began with the Japanese invasion of China. It was a war for fourteen years before America joined it. It officially ended in 1945 — a 17 year war — and was followed by another decade of US occupation in Germany and Japan to get those countries reconstructed and running on their own again .. a 27 year war.
World War II cost the United States an amount equal to approximately a full year’s GDP — adjusted for inflation, equal to about $12 trillion dollars. W.W.II cost America more than 400,000 killed in action, and nearly 100,000 still missing in action.
The Iraq war has, so far, cost the US about $160 billion, which is roughly what
9/11 cost New York. It has also cost about 3,000 American military lives, which is roughly equal to the 3,000 American and multi-national lives that the Jihad snuffed on 9/11. But the cost of not fighting and winning WWII would have been unimaginably greater — a world dominated by German and Japanese Nazism.
This is not 60 minutes TV shows, and 2 hour movies in which everything comes out okay. The real world is not like that. It is messy, uncertain, and sometimes bloody and ugly. Always has been, and probably always will be.
The bottom line is that we will have to deal with Islamic terrorism until we defeat it, whenever that is. It will not go away if we ignore it.
If the US can create a reasonably democratic and stable Iraq, then we have an “England” in the Middle East, a platform, from which we can work to help modernize and moderate the Middle East. The history of the world is the clash between the forces of relative civility and civilization, and the barbarians clamoring at the gates. The Iraq war is merely another battle in this ancient and never ending war. And now, for the first time ever, the barbarians are about to get nuclear weapons. Unless somebody prevents them.
We have four options:
1. We can defeat the Jihad now, before it gets nuclear weapons.
2. We can fight the Jihad later, after it gets nuclear weapons (which may be as early as next year, if Iran’s progress on nuclear weapons is what Iran claims it is)
3. We can surrender to the Jihad and accept its dominance in the Middle East, now, in Europe in the next few years or decades, and ultimately in America.
4. Or, we can stand down now, and pick up the fight later when the Jihad is more widespread and better armed, perhaps after the Jihad has dominated France and Germany and maybe most of the rest of Europe. It will, of course, be more dangerous, more expensive, and much bloodier.
If you oppose this war, I hope you like the idea that your children, or grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the Mullahs and the Sharia (Islamic law), an America that resembles Iran today.
The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win. Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
Remember, perspective is every thing, and America’s schools teach too little history for perspective to be clear, especially in the young American mind.
The Cold war lasted from about 1947 at least until the Berlin Wall came down in 1989. Forty-two years. Europe spent the first half of the 19th century fighting Napoleon, and from 1870 to 1945 fighting Germany
World War II began in 1928, lasted 17 years, plus a ten year occupation, and the US still has troops in Germany and Japan. World War II resulted in the death of more than 50 million people, maybe more than 100 million people, depending on which estimates you accept.
The US has taken more than 3,000 killed in action in Iraq. The US took more than 4,000 killed in action on ONE morning of June 6, 1944, the first day of the Normandy Invasion to rid Europe of Nazi Imperialism.
In W.W.II the US averaged 2,000 KIA a week — for four years. Most of the individual battles of WWII cost more Americans than the entire Iraq war has done so far.
But the stakes are at least as high … A world dominated by representative governments with civil rights, human rights, and personal freedoms.. … or a world dominated by a radical Islamic Wahhabi movement, by the Jihad, under the Mullahs and the Sharia (Islamic law).
Consider sending this to anyone who did not experience WW-II……and, also, consider sending to those who did.

Let’s start with a decent respect for the facts. At least some of Raymond Kraft’s most obviously checkable facts are badly outdated. Maybe they were true when he wrote his piece; but they were out of date when it was reposted here. To begin: US battlefield deaths in this Iraq war currently stand at over 3,200 — over a thousand more than the number Kraft cited, and hundreds more than died here on 9/11.
The true cost of the war is impossible to state without going into brain-overloadiong detail, but it is certainly by anyone’s measure more than the $160 billion figure Kraft came up with. Remember the Bush administration’s original cost estimate for the war? It was $50 billion. (Lawrence Lindsey, a White House economic adviser, was a bit more realistic, predicting that the cost could go as high as $200 billion. President Bush, characteristically, fired him for saying so.) The ever-optimistic Paul Wolfowitz went further, asserting that the war would “pay for itself”, by means of increased Iraqi oil production. (It was never clear to me how the proceeds from selling Iraqi oil were supposed to flow directly into the US Treasury, but let that pass.)
The estimates I have read for the war’s cost to date range from $400 billion up to well over a trillion dollars. Now Kraft cites an “inflation-adjusted” cost of WW II of $12 trillion dollars, which might seem to make the Iraq war look like a relative bargain at “only” one or two trillion. However, Kraft’s “inflation adjustment” is pure bogus arithmetic. Watch carefully here. He says that the cost of WW II was about equal to one year’s GDP, so he then simply substitutes a recent year’s GDP figure (most likely 2004 or 2005, when he probably wrote his piece) to arrive at $12 trillion.
But a lot more has changed between 1941 and 2007 than inflation. For one thing, our country’s population has grown by about 100 million people since then. For another thing, the average standard of living has gone up quite significantly in real terms over the last 65 years. You can’t substitute a 2004 GDP for a 1944 GDP and call it an “inflation adjustment”. Or rather, you can, just like Kraft did, but you really shouldn’t. It’s dishonest.
It is true that The Greatest Generation (and their parents) sacrificed a lot more, in dollars, lives and suffering, to win WW II, than we have sacrificed to “win” in Iraq. While he has asked a great deal of our military and National Guard forces, as far as I know George W. Bush has never asked the American taxpayer to sacrifice anything to achieve victory in Iraq.
Another obviously outdated “fact” has to do with Saddam Hussein. Kraft wrote, “Whether Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11 or not, it is undisputed that Saddam has been actively supporting the terrorist movement for decades. Saddam is a terrorist. Saddam is, or was a weapon of mass destruction, who is responsible for the deaths of probably more than a million Iraqis and two million Iranians.” Now I’m not crying any crocodile tears over Saddam. He was a horrible person. But note the verb tense: “was”. As of today, it is surely wrong to say “Saddam is a terrorist.” “Saddam was a terrorist,” maybe. If it is true that Saddam was guilty of “actively supporting the terrorist movement for decades”, it might be good form to concede that for large portions of those decades, the US was just as actively supporting Saddam.
OK I hear you saying, so big deal, Kraft got his verb tense wrong for today. What was he supposed to be, psychic? But in the portion I just quoted, Kraft snuck in another small but critical misstatement of fact. Before I tell you what it was, go back and re-read his words. Did you spot it?
It’s that first clause I quoted: “Whether Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11 or not…” That phrasing makes it appear that this is a fact that is in dispute. It is not, and it was not, even when Kraft was writing. Further, the phrase fudges the truth, by raising the wholly unsubstantiated suggestion that, even if he wasn’t directly involved…
Let me be clear: Saddam Hussein was an evil person, who was not involved in the 9/11 attacks, not in any way. Saddam was a brutal tyrant, yes, but a thoroughly secular one. Osama bin Laden hated him, and vice versa. The only honest way to rewrite that sentence would be to begin, “Although Saddam Hussein was not involved in 9/11, not even indirectly…”
Let’s set aside Kraft’s mistaken facts, some of them wrong due to simply being out of date (I’m not blaming Kraft for these), others that an honest person should have known were faulty even when he was writing this. Let’s now consider his mistaken historical interpretations, which lead him to some bad assumptions, which in turn lead him to what I think are some misguided conclusions. Again, we can start with some easy ones.
Twice Kraft talks about “Japanese Nazis” and “Japanese Nazism”. This is very idiosyncratic at best — no serious historian of WW II would talk in these terms. Kraft sometimes writes as if his readers are historical imbeciles: “World War II, the war with the German and Japanese Nazis…”, suggests that we need reminding which countries we fought in WW II. Then he belabors the point, as if we don’t know what the word ‘ally’ means: “Germany was certainly not an ally, as Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe. Japan was not an ally, as it was well on its way to owning and controlling all of Asia.” Well, duh. Italy was not an ally either, as far as that goes.
Kraft makes other boo-boos, not as obvious, but more directly relevant. He either confuses or conflates “Wahhabism” with “Jihadism”. They are not the same thing at all. “Wahhabism” is the strict form of Islam preferred by the leadership of Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who have long been our allies in the Middle East, the same folks Kraft describes elsewhere as “the educated, rational Saudis of today.” (Maybe it is Kraft who could use that little refresher course, on the meaning of the word ‘ally’.)
Kraft says that “We have created a focal point for the battle at a time and place of our choosing… in Iraq.” We may be in such a battle — a protracted war of attrition against terrorists, insurgents, and resistance elements, with many of the defining characteristics of a civil war. But that’s hardly what we chose, nor is it what we were promised. If the thing turns into an all-out Sunni/Shia civil war, which we all hope it doesn’t, the US won’t even know what side it’s supposed to be on.
But much more serious are Kraft’s bad assumptions. I need to quote him at some length. Please read this, because it is central to Kraft’s whole world-view, and it is profoundly wrong:
“The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win. Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti- pacifists kill them.”
Now this sounds tough-minded and realistic, but it’s completely un-Christian, totally un-American, and just flat wrong. We did not beat the Nazis by being more brutal than them. The Nazis were infinitely more single-mindedly sadistic than we ever were, and we whupped them anyway. Japanese determination during WW II was incredible — second to none — but our grumbling G.I.s, wise-cracking sailors, and earthy airmen rolled them up, bit by unyielding bit, across the world’s greatest ocean.
We didn’t win the Cold War by being more ruthless than Soviet Russia. We kept some scruples — also known as core values — and we not only prevailed, we flat-out triumphed, in the greatest bloodless rout in human history.
More to the point, the Christian Reformation did not outlast the Inquisition by out-torturing it. It took centuries of strength and faith.
If we are to defeat Jihadism — which we will, inshallah, because we must — it will not be by the strength of our Humvees, but by the strength of our ideas. Not by our “iron will”, but by our good will. In the end, we cannot defeat Jihadism by the sword – in a sense, “we” cannot defeat it at all. We can only help the people of the Islamic world to defeat it themselves.
Comment by Don Rogers — Wed, 11 April 2007 / 1410 @ Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:10:12 +0100
Let’s start with a decent respect for the facts. At least some of Raymond Kraft’s most obviously checkable facts are badly outdated. Maybe they were true when he wrote his piece; but they were out of date when it was reposted here. To begin: US battlefield deaths in this Iraq war currently stand at over 3,200 — over a thousand more than the number Kraft cited, and hundreds more than died here on 9/11.
The true cost of the war is impossible to state without going into brain-overloadiong detail, but it is certainly by anyone’s measure more than the $160 billion figure Kraft came up with. Remember the Bush administration’s original cost estimate for the war? It was $50 billion. (Lawrence Lindsey, a White House economic adviser, was a bit more realistic, predicting that the cost could go as high as $200 billion. President Bush, characteristically, fired him for saying so.) The ever-optimistic Paul Wolfowitz went further, asserting that the war would “pay for itself”, by means of increased Iraqi oil production. (It was never clear to me how the proceeds from selling Iraqi oil were supposed to flow directly into the US Treasury, but let that pass.)
The estimates I have read for the war’s cost to date range from $400 billion up to well over a trillion dollars. Now Kraft cites an “inflation-adjusted” cost of WW II of $12 trillion dollars, which might seem to make the Iraq war look like a relative bargain at “only” one or two trillion. However, Kraft’s “inflation adjustment” is pure bogus arithmetic. Watch carefully here. He says that the cost of WW II was about equal to one year’s GDP, so he then simply substitutes a recent year’s GDP figure (most likely 2004 or 2005, when he probably wrote his piece) to arrive at $12 trillion.
But a lot more has changed between 1941 and 2007 than inflation. For one thing, our country’s population has grown by about 100 million people since then. For another thing, the average standard of living has gone up quite significantly in real terms over the last 65 years. You can’t substitute a 2004 GDP for a 1944 GDP and call it an “inflation adjustment”. Or rather, you can, just like Kraft did, but you really shouldn’t. It’s dishonest.
It is true that The Greatest Generation (and their parents) sacrificed a lot more, in dollars, lives and suffering, to win WW II, than we have sacrificed to “win” in Iraq. While he has asked a great deal of our military and National Guard forces, as far as I know George W. Bush has never asked the American taxpayer to sacrifice anything to achieve victory in Iraq.
Another obviously outdated “fact” has to do with Saddam Hussein. Kraft wrote, “Whether Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11 or not, it is undisputed that Saddam has been actively supporting the terrorist movement for decades. Saddam is a terrorist. Saddam is, or was a weapon of mass destruction, who is responsible for the deaths of probably more than a million Iraqis and two million Iranians.” Now I’m not crying any crocodile tears over Saddam. He was a horrible person. But note the verb tense: “was”. As of today, it is surely wrong to say “Saddam is a terrorist.” “Saddam was a terrorist,” maybe. If it is true that Saddam was guilty of “actively supporting the terrorist movement for decades”, it might be good form to concede that for large portions of those decades, the US was just as actively supporting Saddam.
OK I hear you saying, so big deal, Kraft got his verb tense wrong for today. What was he supposed to be, psychic? But in the portion I just quoted, Kraft snuck in another small but critical misstatement of fact. Before I tell you what it was, go back and re-read his words. Did you spot it?
It’s that first clause I quoted: “Whether Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11 or not…” That phrasing makes it appear that this is a fact that is in dispute. It is not, and it was not, even when Kraft was writing. Further, the phrase fudges the truth, by raising the wholly unsubstantiated suggestion that, even if he wasn’t directly involved…
Let me be clear: Saddam Hussein was an evil person, who was not involved in the 9/11 attacks, not in any way. Saddam was a brutal tyrant, yes, but a thoroughly secular one. Osama bin Laden hated him, and vice versa. The only honest way to rewrite that sentence would be to begin, “Although Saddam Hussein was not involved in 9/11, not even indirectly…”
Let’s set aside Kraft’s mistaken facts, some of them wrong due to simply being out of date (I’m not blaming Kraft for these), others that an honest person should have known were faulty even when he was writing this. Let’s now consider his mistaken historical interpretations, which lead him to some bad assumptions, which in turn lead him to what I think are some misguided conclusions. Again, we can start with some easy ones.
Twice Kraft talks about “Japanese Nazis” and “Japanese Nazism”. This is very idiosyncratic at best — no serious historian of WW II would talk in these terms. Kraft sometimes writes as if his readers are historical imbeciles: “World War II, the war with the German and Japanese Nazis…”, suggests that we need reminding which countries we fought in WW II. Then he belabors the point, as if we don’t know what the word ‘ally’ means: “Germany was certainly not an ally, as Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe. Japan was not an ally, as it was well on its way to owning and controlling all of Asia.” Well, duh. Italy was not an ally either, as far as that goes.
Kraft makes other boo-boos, not as obvious, but more directly relevant. He either confuses or conflates “Wahhabism” with “Jihadism”. They are not the same thing at all. “Wahhabism” is the strict form of Islam preferred by the leadership of Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who have long been our allies in the Middle East, the same folks Kraft describes elsewhere as “the educated, rational Saudis of today.” (Maybe it is Kraft who could use that little refresher course, on the meaning of the word ‘ally’.)
Kraft says that “We have created a focal point for the battle at a time and place of our choosing… in Iraq.” We may be in such a battle — a protracted war of attrition against terrorists, insurgents, and resistance elements, with many of the defining characteristics of a civil war. But that’s hardly what we chose, nor is it what we were promised. If the thing turns into an all-out Sunni/Shia civil war, which we all hope it doesn’t, the US won’t even know what side it’s supposed to be on.
But much more serious are Kraft’s bad assumptions. I need to quote him at some length. Please read this, because it is central to Kraft’s whole world-view, and it is profoundly wrong:
“The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win. Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti- pacifists kill them.”
Now this sounds tough-minded and realistic, but it’s completely un-Christian, totally un-American, and just flat wrong. We did not beat the Nazis by being more brutal than them. The Nazis were infinitely more single-mindedly sadistic than we ever were, and we whupped them anyway. Japanese determination during WW II was incredible — second to none — but our grumbling G.I.s, wise-cracking sailors, and earthy airmen rolled them up, bit by unyielding bit, across the world’s greatest ocean.
We didn’t win the Cold War by being more ruthless than Soviet Russia. We kept some scruples — also known as core values — and we not only prevailed, we flat-out triumphed, in the greatest bloodless rout in human history.
More to the point, the Christian Reformation did not outlast the Inquisition by out-torturing it. It took centuries of strength and faith.
If we are to defeat Jihadism — which we will, inshallah, because we must — it will not be by the strength of our Humvees, but by the strength of our ideas. Not by our “iron will”, but by our good will. In the end, we cannot defeat Jihadism by the sword – in a sense, “we” cannot defeat it at all. We can only help the people of the Islamic world to defeat it themselves.
Comment by Don Rogers — Wed, 11 April 2007 / 1411 @ Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:11:57 +0100