9-11 Conspiracy Kooks
"You are wrong, because you haven’t studied the case…" says Jim Fetzer to Bill O’Reilly on "The O’Reilly Factor" last evening.
"You’re nuts…" says O’Reilly.
The discussion regarding Ward Churchill, and others who claim that the 9-11-01 attacks were orchestrated by Bush and the US government included statements by Fetzer that the "government account is provably false".
This man, Fetzer claims to be a former Marine Corps officer, and is helping to run a site called "Scholars for 911 Truth" http://www.st911.org/.
O’Reilly basically ripped this guy up, calling him a disgrace. Well, I agree. I’ve been involved in taking these idiots apart since the day AFTER 9-11 when it started on the internet. I was helping to run the Anomalies Network back then and we had a lot of lunatics coming to the site that would claim "Bush did this, Cheney did that, and oh by the way don’t forget about Halliburton!" whatever the hell that meant. Some days these people were just so frustrating that it was easy to get up, walk away from the computer, grab a beer and go stare at the mountains behind my home. On those days, I wondered "Why in the hell do I put myself through this crap?"
I know why now. I did it because they are WRONG, dead wrong. These 9-11 conspiracy people, all of them are lunatics. They are low life people who want their 15 minutes of fame and the only way they can get it is by making up lies, and connecting little insignificant dots in various little pieces of unconnected data to build some kind of "logical conspiracy". They call the President a liar, a murderer; they say he is complicit in all sorts of conspiracies.
Well, the real conspiracy ladies and gentlemen lies not in what the government did, or it doing, but rather in those of us who do NOTHING, giving tacit approval to these collective idiots and "believers" in the "9-11 Conspiracy". There have been television programs, articles by real authorities on metal structural fatigue, bomb specialists and eye witnesses to the attacks. I personally interviewed three individuals I knew working at the Pentagon that day, all three of whom were caught in traffic and saw the plane with their own eyes hit the Pentagon. They were military and former military and for me to believe that these three were "in on a conspiracy" and to have them sit there on the phone and lie to me about what they saw is well beyond the pale.
On the site for this kook, Fetzer, the following message appears:
"How can I help?"
START A CHAIN REACTION!
Send these three links to at least two friends, asking them to send them to at least two friends as well. When all is said and done, everyone linked to anyone here will have them:
9/11 Mysteries (video)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003
Loose Change, 2nd Edition (Recut)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
9/11: A Conversation with Jim Fetzer (video)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=590053292130233240
Thanks for your support and concern. We can do it together!
Jim
James H. Fetzer
Founder and Co-Chair
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
How can you help? Why you can help by spreading LIES. You can take another KOOK site, Loose Change, and spread around those videos, you can spread the videos of one kook confirming another kook’s so-called evidence. Nice that they can confirm what each other say, isn’t it? They even state that the views expressed are NOT those of the firefighters and others who were actually involved in the attacks and clean up. Wow. Imagine that. Views expressed are not those of the people they put in the videos? Using a plan from 1962 to help Cubans take over Cuba, these lame brained idiots try to connect this all the way to 2001 and the World Trade Center.
What they fail to remember is that plane was turned down my Robert McNamara and then they go jump-step, over several years dropping in little pieces of information trying to make you somehow think those things are connected to some Neo-Conservative “think tank”.
The other day, my wife came home from where she works with a little piece of paper, with the address for the Loose Change web site (I’ve been there before, looked it over and saw it for what it was and left). She told me that people at work had given her the address and told her to look it up, because the real truth was being hidden from her by the government. I told her “I’ve been there. They are kooks. But you’re welcome to check them out. I think you are smart enough not to fall for that nonsense.” I’m not sure if she looked at the site or not, but this is how these lies are spread, victim to victim. One unsuspecting person reads something, sees some piece of information and assumes that the people spouting the nonsense know what they are talking about. Bingo, they have one, who then passes the information to someone else until a whole lot of ignorance pervades sound reasoning. Sad.
There is simply NO objectivity in having a preconceived, advanced belief system and then letting someone come in and shove more crap into your mind. Leftists are the worst bunch of people in the world for this. They have been brainwashed by college leftists, and the media, and if you look at the majority of these kooks pushing the 9-11 conspriacy theories, you’ll find out – guess what? They are college professors (former and current), media people and “artists”. Not one honest-to-God scientist among them, unless he/she is a brainwashed, dyed-in-the wool War Protestor, Peace Activist or Greenpeace member.
This group of leftist kooks who hate Bush and his administration will do anything, and I mean ANYTHING they can to discredit the current administration, and try to make them look bad. This includes lies, and disinformation. These people are so out there that I could sit back and just watch as they continue their lies, but where would the fun in this be?
Now, I would highly recommend that each of you go out and watch these videos. Read the web sites, listen to the arguments. But, listen to the crap between the lines, especially those who talk about “dissenting voices” and “patriotism”. The left is adamantly opposed to anything patriotic, because, you know it makes them look unpatriotic! Good grief. Listen to these people talk, don’t dismiss them out of hand, but listen, really, really listen to them. After awhile you will realize there is an underlying agenda.
Not one piece of this is about the facts, it is about twisting facts. It’s not about telling the truth, its about who can take the truth about what happened and subvert it to a leftist propaganda mind-spin that would make anyone confused. The more complex the information, the more obvious it becomes to the listener that this is a ‘conspiracy’. Why? Because, they SAID so, that’s why!
They want you to believe them, no matter what the “official story” is because it is so much better for you to believe them, than it is for you to do your own research and read the actual eyewitness accounts, read the 9-11 commissions report. If you do that, then you’re a part of the “brainwashed masses”. Too bad that these fools don’t understand there are intelligent people out here and we DO read that material, and we DO listen to what the kooks say.
Unfortunately for the kooks, they are just wrong.
List of links:
The Anomalies Network
Scholars for 9-11 Truth
Hot Air (Video of Fetzer/O’Reilly)
Almost forgot something here…. here’s some information on James Fetzer. Pretty sure it’s the right one.
Curriculum Vitae for JFK Research
UPDATE: From Fetzer’s own resume:
After being commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant in the Marine Corps, he became an artillery officer and served in the Far East. After a tour supervising recruit training in San Diego, he resigned his commission as a Captain to begin graduate work in the history and philosophy of science at Indiana in 1966. He completed his Ph.D. with a dissertation on probability and explanation for Wesley C. Salmon in 1970.

Fetzer is nuttier than a Chinese chicken salad.
Comment by Peter — Fri, 13 October 2006 / 1725 @ Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:25:02 +0100